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Avatar 37a3bd7bc7328f0ead2c0f6f635dddf60615e676e6b4ddf964144012e529de45 SANDEEP asked over 3 years ago

I AM APPEARING FOR CA Intermediate | CA IPCC NOV 15...AND I AM SURE TO PASS....I HAVE ALSO REGISTERED FOR CS EXECUTIVE IN FEB 2014 BUT HAVE NOT WRITTEN EXAM UNTIL NOW ...IF I PASS CA Intermediate | CA IPCC IN NOV 15 CAN I TRY TO DO CS?ANY OBJECTIONS FROM ICAI?HOW TO UNDER TAKE TRAINING?IS THERE ANY WAY SINGLE TRAINING OR SINGLE ARTICLE SHIP CAN DO GOOD FOR BOTH CA AND CS TO APPEAR IN THIER FINALS...I KNOW LASTLY WE HAVE TO RETAIN SINGLE MEMBERSHIP CA/CS,BUT HOW TO COMPLETE BOTH COURSES AT A TIME?

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Data?1494421714 swetha answered over 3 years ago

hello.. i am a student of CA ,CS & i am happy by undergoing both professions without any complications... as u stated that u are attempting CA Intermediate | CA IPCC in nov 2015, i advice u to attempt cs executive in dec 2015 as there are no restrictions regarding intermediate levels.. and later register for training programme of either ca/cs as per your interest in the relevant professions..make sure that u complete ITT TRAINING AND ORIENTATION PROGRAMME ,which are MANDATORY to be eligible for ca articleship.. if u opt for ca articleship,then you have to fill" FORM 112 attached with cs registration letter or identity card" (u can download these from icsi student account)...u ll be eligible for ca final attempt after 3 years from year of passing IPCC/GROUP1.. note that u can pursue only one training at a time..,if u want to undergo other training,then ur current training will be terminated.. but u need not worry about CS training ,bcoz if u complete ca articleship then u get exempted of cs training(NOT EXEMPTED TOTALLY)...u can also attempt cs final within 1 year of clearing cs executive(BOTH MODULES MANDATORY ) ..the period of training depends on the level that u have cleared...It is as follows.. after REGISTRATiON of EXECUTIVE LEVEL - 3 YEARS OF TRAINING after QUALIFYING EXECUTIVE LEVEL-2 YEARS OF TRAINING after QUALIFYING PROFESSIONAL LEVEL-1 YEAR OF TRAINING NOTE THAT: UNDER MODIFIED CS PROGRAMME _ SIP,EDP,PDP,MSOP etc ARE NO LONGER APPLICABLE..go through ICAI and ICSI WEBSITE for detailed information... i hope it helps u ..all the best..

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Avatar 37a3bd7bc7328f0ead2c0f6f635dddf60615e676e6b4ddf964144012e529de45 Prerana answered over 3 years ago

Dear Student You can write your cs exam at any point of time after registeration before 5 years. If you want to take Ca degree then do Ca articleship and if u want Cs degree then do cs Articleship. Choice is yours. Yes you can do both together and there is no objection practically. But as per Icai guidenlines you have to take permision from ICAI if you are doing CS. Good Luck! `

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Avatar 37a3bd7bc7328f0ead2c0f6f635dddf60615e676e6b4ddf964144012e529de45 rohan gupta answered over 3 years ago

Hi, Yes you are allowed to do so. Please refer the detail guidelines issued by institute hereunder- GUIDELINES FOR APPRENTICESHIP BY COMPANY SECRETARIES IN PRACTICE, 1985, AMENDED UPTO 22.09.2013 . 3. ELIGIBILITY FOR COMPANY SECRETARIES IMPARTING APPRENTICESHIP: A candidate registered as a student on or after 16th September, 1982 and who has passed the Intermediate/Executive Programme examination shall be eligible to undergo the apprenticeship training under a whole-time Company Secretary in Practice or a firm of Company Secretaries in Practice under Regulation 48 (c) with the approval of Secretary or Chief Executive if sufficient number of whole-time Company Secretaries in Practice willing to accept the apprentices are available. 4. CONTRACT OF COMPANY SECRETARY APPRENTICESHIP: 4.1 The apprentice and the Company Secretary in Practice will enter into a Contract of Apprenticeship. The contract will be executed in the specified form in duplicate and signed by both the parties viz., the apprentice and the Company Secretary in Practice (Annexure-I). The contract will be filed for registration with the Institute in the specified form (Annexure-II). 4.2 The contract will be executed for a period of 15 months in case of whole-time apprenticeship and as per the Company Secretaries Regulations, 1982, as amended from time to time. The contract will be executed on a Non-Judicial stamp paper or form to be affixed with specific adhesive stamps or franking or by way of e-Stamping of the requisite value. Duplicate thereof will be given to the apprentice. The original contract form is not required to be sent to the Institute and only the form for registration given at Annexure-II along with a copy of contract of training is to be filed with the Institute within 15 days of commencement of training. 4.3 All columns of the contract form are to be filled up clearly and unambiguously. It should be signed by the Company Secretary in Practice and the apprentice at the places provided therein. 4.4 A true copy of examination certificate or marksheet of the student for having passed the Final/ Professional Programme or Intermediate/Executive Programme examination should be filed along with the application for registration. 2 5. ELIGIBILITY FOR A COMPANY SECRETARY IN PRACTICE TO ENGAGE APPRENTICES: (a) Only an ACS/FCS member, who is in whole-time practice as Company Secretary shall be entitled to engage an apprentice for training. (b) A Company Secretary in Practice shall be entitled to impart training to the maximum number of trainees as may be decided by the Council from time to time. As decided by the Council, the Company Secretary in Practice including a partner in a firm of Company Secretaries shall entitle to impart training to number of trainees equal to the number of years of continuous practice of the concerned member subject to a maximum of twenty trainees. A Company Secretary in Practice with less than two years of continuous practice shall entitle to engage only one trainee. If the Company Secretary in Practice surrenders his certificate of practice and starts his practice after a gap, he shall entitle to have the same number of trainees as he was entitled when he surrendered his certificate of practice. (c) An Associate or Fellow member of the Institute who is a whole-time employee of a Company Secretary in Practice shall also be entitled to train one additional apprentice on behalf of the Company Secretary in Practice or firm of Company Secretaries in Practice, if any, of the partners of the firm is entitled to impart training to apprentice. (d) The Company Secretary in Practice will be required to maintain an independent office for practice. (e) The Company Secretary in Practice will maintain an attendance register for the trainees showing the time of their arrival and departure and a register for payment of stipend. (f) The Council may transfer an apprentice from one Company Secretary in Practice to another one, on receipt of request by either the Company Secretary in Practice or the apprentice. (g) After completion of the training, the Company Secretary in Practice shall issue a certificate to that effect to the Institute in the specified form and a copy to the apprentice. (h) Any dispute between the apprentice and the Company Secretary in Practice shall be referred to the appropriate committee of the Council for settlement. Decision of the committee shall be final. (i) In case a Company Secretary in Practice is engaged in some other business/occupation in addition to the Company Secretaryship, only with the prior permission of the Council, he may be permitted to engage an apprentice. He should forward the following additional information to the Institute to determine his eligibility to train the apprentices before he engages the apprentice. 3 (i) Period of his being engaged in that other occupation: (ii) His working hours in that occupation; (iii) Total number of daily and weekly working hours in that occupation; and (iv) Working hours of his practice as Company Secretary. (j) A member who ceases to be in practice or gives up his salaried employment under a Company Secretary in Practice or firm of such Company Secretaries and who at the time of discontinuance of practice or paid employment, as the case may be, has any apprentice under him, shall not be eligible for practice or take-up salaried employment under a Company Secretary in Practice or a firm of such Company Secretaries until such time as the apprentice(s) serving under him previously complete the period of training intended to be served under him, has he not given up his practice or the salaried employment. (k) No Company Secretary in Practice shall engage any trainee or apprentice of any other Institute or society simultaneously with the engaging of the apprentice for Company Secretaryship training except with the prior permission of the Institute. 6. PREMIUM: No premium shall be charged or payable in case of apprentices entering into apprenticeship. 7. WORKING HOURS: The candidates undergoing whole-time apprenticeship shall be required to work during normal hours for a period of fifteen months which shall not be less than 6 hours a day for 5 days in a week for a total period of fifteen months. 8. STIPEND: Every Company Secretary in Practice engaging the apprentice shall be required to pay monthly stipend to the apprentice at the rates determined by the Council from time-to-time. For the time being the Council has fixed a minimum stipend of ₹ 2000 per month to a whole-time apprentice. 15. Permission for pursuing additional course of study. 15.1 The apprentice may be granted permission for pursuing the additional course of study, considered useful for the Company Secretaryship Course during the entire period of training whether it involves attending any classes or not. 6 15.2 The following courses have been identified as useful for the Company Secretaryship course. (a) Courses conducted by the Institute of Costs Accountants of India. (b) Courses conducted by the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India. (c) Courses leading to acquisition of a degree in law, management or commerce and (d) Any other recognized course in law, management or commerce discipline as may be approved by the Institute from time-to-time. 15.3 The Institute may grant permission will not have any objection for apprentices to pursue any of the courses referred to above provided the employer Company Secretary in Practice does not have any objection has given concurrence and forwarded the application of the apprentice to the Institute. 15.4 The course is to be pursued after normal working hours (at least for six working hours) of the employer Company Secretary in Practice and attendance to do the course is beyond six normal working hours with the Company Secretary in Practice.

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Avatar 37a3bd7bc7328f0ead2c0f6f635dddf60615e676e6b4ddf964144012e529de45 saikiran answered over 3 years ago

YOU ARE DIRECTLY ELIGIBLE FOR WRITING CS EXECUTIVE EXAM,AFTER PASSING CA Foundation | CA CPT.MOREEVER YOU SHOULD SUBMIT FORM 112 FOR PURSUING ANY OTHER COURSE IN PARALLEL TO CA DURING ARTICLESHIP PERIOD.YOU CAN DO CS INDUSTRIAL TRAINING AFTER PASSING OUT CS PROFEESIONAL

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